Discussion of Ray Peat on Jack Kruse forums

http://forum.jackkruse.com/index.php?threads/responses-to-ray-peats-conclusions.8834/

Jack Kruse says Peat's ideas are passe because of EMFs:

"Ray Peat was right before EMF..........since 1930 he is clueless. That is all I will say on the subject. He has no idea that we all are living in a world that cause a constant crabtree effect and calcium efflux."

And
"before emf there was more therapeutic leeway for stretching a dietary template today there is not"

Because of avoiding DHA and eating carbs which "uncondense" your matter, Jack Kruse says Peatarians are actively creating brain damage.

Thoughts?

asked Apr 8, 2015 by raintree
edited Apr 10, 2015 by raintree

If it's not very obvious to you from Kruse's comments in that thread that he's insane, then I don't really know what to say. Mentally balanced people just don't talk like that.

I have no idea about the merits of his ideas. I'll wait to hear them from somebody who isn't crazy.

commented Apr 8, 2015 by 4a552f55cbb9

You dismiss him because he seems unbalanced? In what way? You plan to wait to hear his views? Time waits for no one.

commented Apr 8, 2015 by raintree

Low-carb brings out 'avoidant' traits and a sort of monomania.

commented Apr 9, 2015 by karl
edited Apr 9, 2015 by karl

It might. In blood type Os, who are most suited to the paleo template, the issue (I think) is dopamine.
http://www.4yourtype.com/blood-type-o/
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/001429999290688Z

commented Apr 10, 2015 by raintree

6 Answers

I can see that there is a certain masculine appeal to Kruse, with his shameless and unwavering confidence (especially compared with Peat's somewhat hesitant and quivering voice,) but I would not take medical advice from him.

Peat has a certain honesty and authenticity about him; he seems to communicate in simple and common terms so that his audience can fully grasp his ideas.

Kruse, on the other hand, shrouds his ideas in a mist of biological jargon so dense that I doubt even he has the faintest sense of what he's saying most of the time.

answered Apr 8, 2015 by Kasra

I wouldn't say confident but certainly aggressive.

commented Apr 9, 2015 by karl

Never heard of him till now. My first thought when seeing his picture was that of a shady used car salesman - not entirely surprised that he has the attitude to match.

Peat on the other hand has always looked baller.

commented Apr 9, 2015 by PeatNoob

I've read several of his blog series and am now reading his book. He's a genius.

commented Apr 10, 2015 by raintree

Hey, that's my thread! I started it over there before I became disillusioned with Kruse. His only response to Peat's work was "something something carb whore something something E=MC^2."

answered Apr 9, 2015 by QiGuy1997

I'm sorry, the discussion is relevant. I had to start the thread here.
Kruse says environment is the main issue and physics explains why.

commented Apr 10, 2015 by raintree

That wasn't an angry "hey", it was a surprised "hey". I don't mind that you brought it up!

commented Apr 10, 2015 by QiGuy1997

He has a different view of carbs. He says increased carb intake has pushed T3 levels up causing people to have an iodine deficiency:
http://forum.jackkruse.com/index.php?threads/iodine-epi-paleo-rx-thyroid-and-carb-linkage.9535/

He doesn't treat Peat with proper respect, true. He's a doctor.

commented Apr 10, 2015 by raintree

Haha, crazy that I saw this thread as I was JUST viewing the very same thread being discussed.

Dr Kruse is creepy as fuck. His fans respond to his every word like he's L Ron Hubbard at a scientology convention.

The funny part is how vaguely dismissive he is of Peat's work. Mentions how even though Peat was talking about EMF a long time ago (or something similar before it was dubbed EMF) he concludes that he misses important information BECAUSE of EMF. Kruse is very confused and full of shit.

bio-fractal-soul-self was the only guy who knew what he was talking about regarding Peat and Kruse vaguely dismisses what he says (followed by people worshiping his every word).

I mean, who the fuck quotes themselves as if it were a fan posting it for inspiration. The guy desperately wants to suck himself off.

answered Apr 9, 2015 by halken

Kruse is a blood type O. He's being himself. His followers are O and As who didn't get the authoritarian memo. They are acting normally, the way they've been conditioned to their whole life.

commented Apr 10, 2015 by raintree

I couldn't care less what Quack Kruse has to say. He says Ray is clueless? He recommends a lot of the foods Ray recommends like shellfish. Do we have to wait and see why in his next blog post? Doesn't he only wear Under Armour shirts for some stupid reason? He is selling something which always means his info should be taken with a grain of salt. Ray on the other hand doesn't need to worry about his brand. Ray puts his ego aside and tells it how he sees it. Like a boss.

answered Apr 10, 2015 by Ray Peat is a God

It seems interest peaked in late 2012 when this was posted:

http://freetheanimal.com/2012/05/dr-jack-kruse-neurosurgeon-is-a-big-fucking-liar.html

answered Apr 8, 2015 by visionofstrength

The paleo community hates Kruse because he wrecked their game. They're bitter.

commented Apr 8, 2015 by raintree