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Josh Rubin says too much ice cream will make you fat

From page 100 of Peat-inspired practitioners, Josh and Jeanne Rubin of EastWest Healing & Performance, their e-book, "The Metabolic Blueprint:"

Too much ice cream consumption will lead to weight gain so please review the following considerations prior to incorporating into your diet.
1. Although ice cream offers a nice balance of macronutrients qualifying it as the perfect snack or dessert, ice cream and table sugar should be used very conservatively and are not meant for everybody.
2. Ice cream intake should never be a substitute for nutrient dense, live foods.
3. When purchasing ice cream it is important to consider the quality first and foremost. Avoid purchasing ice cream with emulsifiers and stabilizers such as: carageenan, guar gum, artificial flavorings, diethyl glycol, propylene glycol, glycerin, sodium carboxyl methylcellulose, monoglycerides...I think you get the point!
4. NOT EVERYONE IS METABOLICALLY CAPABLE OF EATING ICE CREAM/DAIRY. Most individuals are in a state of hyper-insulinemia or hypo-metabolic. In this state digestion is severely altered causing a decrease in digestive enzyme production among other dysfunctions."

"There simply is NO Arguing human physiology!" - Josh Rubin

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He says that he was close to being lean years ago but he "didn't have a life." Wow. Jeanne laughs and tells the RawBrah guy that she'll show him a picture after, of when he was lean. What a joke.

asked Feb 11, 2015 by Westside PUFAs
edited Feb 13, 2015 by Westside PUFAs

Did you make this post before or after you blew durianrider?

Who cares what he looks like, is his body temperature 98.6+?

Post a picture of yourself! You critique everyone, but hide behind your keyboard. You must look like you just walked out of a 300 movie!

After, and it wasn't a blowjob, it was a cuckold with Freelee.

"Who cares what he looks like, is his body temperature 98.6+?"

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His 98.6+ body temperature is only because of stress hormones keeping it up from being overweight.

No acknowledgment of my request to see a picture of you. What a surprise. Your'e probably scrawny and weak.

if you wanna Skype with me my rate is $20/hr.

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1 Answer

If you want to know if you are, as Rubin calls it, in a state of hyper-insulinemia or hypo-metabolic, you can measure your blood glucose throughout the day, before and after eating. You should see strong highs and deep lows: an example might be, a high of 150 and a low of 100. Or a high of 120 and a low of 80. It's the relative variance that matters more than the absolute numbers.

With a little simple self-experimentation you'll prove to yourself that fructose and extremely low fat improve this variance, as does coffee with food, aspirin and niacinamide/thiamine.

In contrast, starch and more than a very little fat reduce the variance in the glucose readings. [With the exception of MCTs that are converted to short short chain fatty acids.]

Biophysically, because most people are reliant on lipolysis for energy, a diet of starch or more than a little fat only perpetuates the lipolysis, interfering with insulin uptake inside the cells, which in turn creates high insulin gradients outside the cells.

answered Feb 11, 2015 by visionofstrength
edited Feb 11, 2015 by visionofstrength

How are MCT/CO an exception to this? How would you go about flipping the switch (from lipolysis to glucose oxidation I presume?)

There's not much known about oxidation of medium and short chain fatty acids, but they are known to be metabolized very quickly and efficiently compared to the longer chain fats, and Peat and Ling's biophysics might explain the benefit like this:

High pressure tends to act as a cell excitant (e.g., it can cause a muscle to contract), and in effect is raising the "structural temperature" of cell water. This suggests that the reduced pressure of high altitude would have the beneficial (antistress) effect of decreasing the structural temperature of cell water. This means that gases would have a higher solubility in cell water at high altitudes, which would tend to slightly offset the biological effect of the relative scarcity of air at high altitude. There is some evidence (Drost-Hansen, 1972) that reduced pressure increases the solubility of oxygen in cells. The presence of carbon dioxide should increase this effect. (Drost-Hansen discusses some examples of "anomalous" concentration effects of hydrocarbon/water mixtures, p. 254, in "Anomalous temperature and pressure dependencies of gas solubilities: Laboratory and field observations," Chemistry and Physics of Aqueous Gas Solutions, 233-256, 1975?) I think Drost-Hansen's reasoning suggests that the short-chain fatty acids might also increase the solubility of oxygen in cell water. If this is true, it suggests that coconut oil might have a very important antistress effect, sustaining efficient respiration during demanding situations.