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Doctor Sells His Practice in New York, Buys Organic Farm & Begins Treating Patients Himself

"And as always, the proof ultimately lies in the impact he’s had on his patients, like Angie Rotella-Suarez, whose mother’s life was essentially saved by Weiss’ food recommendations of a plant-based diet comprised of organic grains (including sweet potatoes), steamed vegetables, fruit (especially lots of blueberries), and water.

Suarez prepared the meals for her mother and after just 2 weeks she stopped taking her blood pressure medication, left her wheelchair (and 40 pounds) behind, and began doing chores around the house every day again, regaining her energy and sense of purpose in life.

Despite not receiving the full support of his peers for changing his philosophy, his patients feel differently.

Weiss is the “the best of what the medical profession has to offer,” Suarez said, and after he what he did for her mother, it’s no wonder why she would feel that way"

http://althealthworks.com/5005/doctor-sells-his-practice-in-new-york-creates-his-own-organic-farmacy-for-treating-patients/

asked Feb 4, 2015 by Illusion

"a plant-based diet comprised of organic grains (including sweet potatoes), steamed vegetables, fruit (especially lots of blueberries), and water"

With the addition of a variety of a little animal food this is a pretty good diet that has a good track record historically. It can be messed up by consuming lots of nut butters and seed oils, but otherwise I think it is a good choice for most people who just want to feel and sleep better, decrease inflammation, especially after middle age.

This is basically the diet that I encourage my aging parents to eat, instead of their usual pasta/store-bought pizza staples they were eating while also skipping meals and under-eating thinking it was the only way they could loose belly fat/water weight and feel better. They are currently eating to their satisfaction three times a day and seeing lots of improvements.

I also think a diet like this is not very contradictory to a lot of things that Peat emphasizes and I can fully support people and doctors choosing this style of eating. It's not likely to build a lot of lean tissue, but it would likely reduce cortisol and estrogen, which would be a huge win for most people.

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I'm sure that this guy's heart is in the right place, but it makes me more than a little sad that people are still relying on their doctors to tell them how to eat.

Did they really need to have some paternalistic guy, sweet as he may be, tell them to eat blueberries?

answered Feb 4, 2015 by kapow

It is even sadder that so many people here rely on a paternalistic old man to tell them to avoid vegetables, sweet potatoes, grains, berries and other foods that people have eaten for thousands of years, while feasting on milk, orange juice and sucrose supplemented with hormones, massive doses of vitamins, and prescription drugs that they use without a doctor's supervision.

At least people get healthy following this doctor's advice. Most people who follow Peat's advice do not get well and even get worse, but they still defend Peat's advice while hiding their unhealthy, unattractive bodies behind a computer.

Who is this paternalistic old man you speak of, Islandgirl? Who is relying on him to tell them exactly how to live? I see a whole lot of people doing a whole lot of different things on this site, from eating moderate fat, low starch, to high starch low fat, some avoiding berries, most embracing berries, some avoiding milk, others embracing meat, some eating wheat every day, others avoiding gluten altogether, etc., etc. etc.
I also see a whole lot of people studiously examining the science themselves before applying a single recommendation.
Helpful hint: "The Ray Peat Critical Review Series" is the single most popular thing on this site. By far. You may want to check it out. ;-)

By the way, Islandgirl, I'm glad you're still with us.
I saw another thread the other day where you suggested that Peat actually looks older than his age.......Could you tell us where you're from? I'd like to visit this place where the average 80 year old looks younger than Peat.

Did they really need to have some paternalistic guy, sweet as he may be, tell them to eat blueberries?

Judging from people in my extended family, especially the women, apparently people do need this. They really think that if you have a health problem you go to the doctor and he fixes it for you. You do what he says. The fact that they keep going to doctors and never really get healthier, and keep getting ripped off, seems to escape their notice.

This is why something insane like 20% of American GDP is burned up in the "health care" industry.

@kapow,

"I'd like to visit this place where the average 80 year old looks younger than Peat."

In these photos of Peat from a few months ago, he looks 80 years old to me. He doesn't look younger to me. I'm not saying he looks bad. He's lean and like Kasra said, he has good posture. But he looks 80. And there is nothing wrong with that. People need to get over the obsession with taking hormones to look younger, which, is a demographic that Peat attracts.

http://peatarian.com/48998/most-recent-photos-of-ray-peat?show=48998#q48998

"but they still defend Peat's advice while hiding their unhealthy, unattractive bodies behind a computer."

Exactly. People are eager to show their good results everywhere else. Not in cult land.

Where are your photos, Islandgirl and Westside? I'm not asking to be cheeky or anything. I'm just really intrigued.....
Westside, if you are honestly saying that 50% of all 80 year olds look better than Peat does in those pictures, then that is friggin awesome news to me. Because where I come from, the average 80 year old has several folds of neck skin, pronounced forward head posture/kyphosis, age spots, and hair that might as well not be....Something like this:
http://www.citynews.ca/files/2013/10/missing-man-George-MIKAN.jpg

I'll put myself out there once I look how I want to look.

I looked great 2.5 years ago. Shredded and muscular. My health and well being was a mess, but I looked good.

I put on maybe nine pounds of fat in "recovery" that I'm working off now.

Can't say I'm too interested in seeing whether or not somebody is at 9% body fat. Obesity is sure cause for concern, but looking shredded in a photo or two is pretty worthless as a signal. It's not hard to diet down for that.

Clarence Bass gets my respect for his yearly shredded old man pics, though. http://www.cbass.com/PICTORAL.HTM

cbass1

His diet advice is very peat compatible. He has advocated for whole grains as a carb source, but also recommends whole milk. His exercise advice (in a nutshell) is every week one brief & intense strength training session, one big endurance session, plenty of walking, and maybe a sprint session or some supplemental weight work. Definitely squares up with what works for me.

Wow. That's impressive, but I think that that level of leanness is not necessarily ideal, in terms of overall health. I think Peat would look absolutely awesome if he worked out occasionally with that kind of intensity. The one area where I think Peat really does show his age is in his voice. Oh, and his hearing.

Why isn't that level of leanness ideal? I think it's a good thing. With bodybuilder types and pro-athletes it's a problematic sign because they starve and over-exercise to achieve it. But Clarence Bass doesn't do either of those things. He simply does portion control with regular, balanced meals. He lifts weights once a week, goes on a big run once a week, and that's about it.

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