This archived forum used to be called 'Peatarian' (in reference to Ray Peat).

The Organism as a Macrocosm of the Cell

This title might sound like some intellectual bullshit, but I consider what I'm about to type to be very practical and useful:

We think of the body as being is either a good or a bad state. When we are in a good state, there is high thyroid, progesterone, pregnenolone, DHEA, testosterone (in guys), etc, and our metabolic rate is high. When we are in a bad state, there is inflammation, fibrosis, high cortisol, high serotonin, high prolactin, excess estrogen, etc. Peat talks about some of these "bad" things as being essential components in a stress reaction - for example, if there is a scarcity of food, we are better off lowering the metabolic rate.

The stressed state can be thought of as a sort of "locked down" mode. Analogous to how inflammation and fibrosis create rigidity in cells, the same factors that promote fibrosis create a sort of rigidity in the organism as a whole - under great stress, people often become anxious and withdrawn.

I've noticed a pattern in my various experiments where I always seem to get good results when I first try a new change in my diet or a new supplement or whatever. However, as soon as I decide that this new thing (whether its drinking lots of coffee, avoiding fat, avoiding fiber, eating lots of fiber, etc.) is the cause of my good feelings, I start to lose that good feeling even with perfect adherence to that idea.

Since the state of feeling good basically involves the absence of inflammation, fibrosis, and similar "lock-down" stress responses, I think that an essential component to maintaining that good state is to avoid locking down on any idea or habit. In order to maintain the high energy flux and and absence of lock-down stress responses in your cells, you have to live in that same liberated, high-energy way that you want your cells to function.

The human organism as a whole can be viewed as a macrocosm of the individual cell. You want your cells to readily take in energy and metabolize it, to respond to stressors in a way that is best for long-term health, and to never freeze up and disrupt their functioning. A healthy person will behave much in the same way as his cells do.

u gotta become the cell bro enter image description here

asked Jan 29, 2015 by Kasra

Yes, that's what I always say when I speak about the 'low energy' and 'high energy' states I experienced and pretty much everything you do shifts it either way. Most diseases or also negative mental states are usually just the result of persisting for too long in the negative state, so living life the way you don't actually want to; you cannot even group certain foods or activities into shifting it in one way or another, as it's really an individual thing and can differ a lot from person to person and circumstance to circumstance.

the other day, i felt a hankering for some ice cream - which i hadn't had in a long time..... because i just had not great experiences with it in the past. but i noticed that with this craving also came that rigid internal dogmatism that it didn't work then, it won't work now. i gorged on the stuff, and my bloatedness went away as well as bad sleep.....i think my body was needing it because of high stress and new calorie demands that i wasn't keying into. just part of the process of becoming the cell...

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yes, this is oxidative metabolism 101. And i'm glad you're joining class. : ) no seriously - this is very refreshing to read here....because it's so true and to the heart of everything Peat is about - and yet it's so overlooked.
to be more specific on your comment about never locking down - i think that place of not locking down has to do with being in a constant state of "perceive, think, act" (Peat).....that's the only legitimate thing to lock down on - being perceptive. But it's also not a nebulous thing like running around like a cell or conjuring change....because the cell is what requires the change. The cell is the dictator - we don't get to tell it what it needs. I talked about this here, where the body is in flux (varying for everyone) and that we have to pick up on when these cells are requiring change. But i think it takes time to decipher what the cells are saying accurately.

answered Jan 29, 2015 by Nicholas
edited Jan 29, 2015 by Nicholas
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