This archived forum used to be called 'Peatarian' (in reference to Ray Peat).

Ray Peat, The Practical Guide. Coming Soon...

...if only. Getting a good practical overview of Ray Peat theories is time consuming. The actionable aspects are scattered all over the place. Do you think Ray will ever produce a short practical guide, not the theory part (thats on his website) just a complete guide on how to implement the theories?

Has anyone read Danny Roddys 'hair like a fox' or 'the peat whisper' and if so are they complete practical guides? Do they ring true to Peats theories or does Danny deviate with his own theories?

Has anyone read 'The Metabolic blueprint'?:
http://eastwesthealing.com/the-metabolic-blueprint/

asked May 12, 2013 by Peato Diet
I didn't read any of those. I wouldn't pay more than $20.
That would be nice to have reviews of all these Peat oriented books and programs.
I agree Sarah, I haven't heard much about The Metabolic Blueprint, and would be curious to hear from someone who bought it.
Steven Smith has a review of The Peat Whisperer: http://www.systemicvitality.com/myblog/2012/8/15/the-peat-whisperer-an-objective-review.html. I really agree with the book being a good way to "save time and error", it was easily my best time-investment for "getting" Peat's ideas. Also, I found some quick opinions on The Metabolic Blueprint here: http://www.raypeatforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1251
Thanks for the information. It's interesting reading Peat's articles, but not always easy, especially when your brain is in a sluggish state.  I'll look at those links. "The Peat Whisperer"sounds like a good choice of Ray Peat dietary and health interpretation.
Here's an easy read and much cheaper: http://www.ididntquitsugar.com/

Kate is a licensed nutritionist (albeit in Australia) and a Peat follower of sorts. Her nutrition perspective is helpful, I think. I worked with her a bit and it was good just to get me off my stupid dieting habits. However, I think when it comes to Peat, it's best to use his principles to fit what works for you (something Kate has helped me do a bit).
Thanks, lecomer. I'll check that out, too.
lecomer, would you recommend that book for someone completely unfamiliar with the heath/nutrition world? I was thinking about buying it for someone.
It's a great book for understanding the importance of Sugar in the human diet, as well as how to balance it for stable blood sugar levels. Both Cassie & Kate were former Paleo dieters who changed ship when health began to fail, so I guess I would also recommend it for someone who might be looking into Paleo (especially females, as we tend to have harsher reactions physiologically to dieting). I also recommend Kate's site in general - full of great nutrition information: http://www.nutritionbynature.com.au/
I think it's potentially dangerous to blindly follow these diet rules without understanding the theory. I think Ray Peat intentionally obscures his actionable advice out of concern that it will be implemented incorrectly by someone who doesn't understand. For example, sugar levels above what a particular individual is able to metabolize (the limit depending on many variables) are toxic.

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While those practical guides are useful in the very beginning, I don't think it is very wise to use step by step guides. I think blind following of "do this, eat that" is what brought us into the disease epidemic in the first place and is unlikely to lead us out of it again. I think much more important than following strict guides is the critical way of thinking, constant self-experimentation and improvement that stands for Ray Peat and his work.

answered May 13, 2013 by Bukowski

I think The Peat Whisperer comes pretty close to this. It does have a lot of "Peat-theory" in it; it's not a diet book that you could just toss at an uninterested friend or relative. But I think it has to build that minimum level of understanding before looking at Peat's context-dependent recommendations.

Once you have the theory down, it's very actionable: principles for choosing foods, what to do for particular labwork results, meal suggestions, supplements, etc.

Also, I don't think Danny Roddy "deviates" the way some people perceive. In the book, especially, pretty much every other sentence has direct references to Peat's articles, interviews, etc.

answered May 12, 2013 by Dan Wich
Hmm, that was a bit of a Roddy love-fest, I'll say something negative to balance it: the book's web site is "overmarketey". Also, he kinda looks like he'd smell of office supplies.
"smells of office supplies" lol! Staplers?
Not staplers, really. You know how they'll say that a distinguished older person smells of bourbon and old books? I suspect that Danny Roddy smells like a freshly-opened ream of paper. And that sentence should probably be used as an endorsement quote on the next edition.
And actually, the web site seems fine now. I thought I remembered it as one of those sales-letter types.
The description does bring to mind a clear image or I should say a feeling associated with a smell.  As for the web site, I know my impression of things is greatly influenced by the mood I'm in.
hahahaha Dan, you crack me up!
Have you read hair like a fox? Im just wondering how it differs from the peat whisperer in terms of its practical application.

Danny is apparently in the process of writing hair like a fox version 2.
I haven't read Hair Like a Fox, but I've wondered about that too. I thought I remembered Danny comparing them somewhere, but I can't find it.
'Hair Like a Fox' is basically the same thing as the 'Peat Whisperer' except that HLAF is a bit more "practical" skipping some of the more extensive Peat-inspired science on hormones in PW.  HLAF also has a section on pharmaceutical hair loss supplements and why they're bad.  You can also tell by the meal samples in HLAF that Danny fine-tuned some of his thinking according to Peat.  Peat-nutrition is apparently pro-hair...so HLAF just involved marketing it to the hair people.  They really are almost identical books.
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